Dan Jungleman Cates has come under fire from Vanessa Kade and Jaime Staples for his latest tweet that focuses on, of all things, women’s cosmetic surgery … the “trout pout” to be exact.
So is anyone else gonna tell these girls that lip filler is losing guys, not getting them more?
I can’t standby idly and watch this, hate me if you must
— Daniel Cates 🇺🇸 🌎 (@junglemandan) January 7, 2022
Jungleman trout pout comments angers fellow pros
“Hate” might be a strong word for those who found Jungleman’s tweet offensive, but it was always unlikely to get past Vanessa Kade, who has already had to put up with her share of misogyny in the poker world.
first thing that pops into my head every time
almost always posted by someone in need of a good look in the mirror
if you’re writing off a person over minor cosmetics, you’re probably not mature enough to be in a real relationship anyway
date your preference & judge less pic.twitter.com/y6srbkULSs
— Vanessa Kade (@VanessaKade) January 8, 2022
Canadian pro Kade first hit the poker headlines at the end of 2020, when Dan Bilzerian replied: “Quiet hoe, nobody knows who you are” in response to a negative tweet from Kade.
A huge poker Twitter feeding frenzy ensued that only really ended when Kade scooped the anniversary Sunday Million for $1.5million, ensuring almost everybody knew who she was.
She wasn’t alone in pulling up Jungleman for his public condemnation of the “trout pout” look and why women do it. Jaime Staples gave a measured video response explaining what was wrong with the tweet…
https://t.co/MXrkrjjqBu pic.twitter.com/AWO1LAkQW7
— Jaime Staples (@jaimestaples) January 8, 2022
Jungleman responded and it wasn’t clear if he had moved into full troll mode or not:
“That’s not 100% true and they are doing things that turn away a big % of their suitors!!”
Kristen Bicknell took a break from her Covid-19 related tweeting to add: “I suspect he was referring to people who went overboard”, but it’s unlikely Cates will be getting signed up by one poker site for sure.
ACR’s head of sponsorship, Melanie Moser, tweeted:
“Is anyone else gonna tell these guys that women can do whatever they want and feel happy with cause, believe it or not, not all we do in terms of make-up and cosmetics is to get guys.”
Jungleman has, of course, been involved in plenty of controversy during his career, but most of it has at least been poker related and it stretches back more than a decade.
The “Girah” scandal
Dan Cates was heavily involved in one of the biggest poker stories of 2010 and 2011, when the online account “Girah” – later revealed to be young Portuguese pro, Jose Macedo, appeared in highstakes cash games.
However, not all was what it seemed, as Macedo was also behind another online account “sauron1989” that he tricked other players into losing money to in 2011.
Jungleman’s connection? Well, it transpired that Cates, along with Haseeb “DogIsHead” Qureshi, was staking Macedo. Not only that, but Cates multi-accounted by using first Macedo’s “Girah” account and then Qureshi’s “SamChauhan” account.
Qureshi came clean on the scandal, revealing:
“Jungle was bored and unable to play on any sites after Black Friday. Jose offered to let Jungle use his account if he let Jose watch. A month or so later, while Jungle and I were in Vegas, Jungle played my SamChauhan account and I took 50% of his action. Jungle lost 40k…”
Jungleman Outed by Dan Bilzerian for ghosting
Fast forward a decade and Jungleman was at the centre of a very similar controversy, when he was outed by Dan Bilzerian as being the pro behind yet another a ghosting scandal.
Bill Perkins had claimed there was a cheating scandal that would put “Postlegate” in the shade, tweeting out that someone was, “Circumventing the software with team viewer, against friends in an invite only game for 500/1k 1k ante. With a super pro who publicly talks about integrity.”
Perkins didn’t name names, but Dan Bilzerian did, later deleting a tweet that read: “This cocksucker Sina Taleb cheated me, @bp22 and others outta money on Fun Ocean poker app by having @junglemandan play on his account…”
Cates admitted to playing on the businessman’s account, but claimed, “I played very few hands against Bill Perkins, who sat in a game I understood was rampant with professionals who were ghosting.
Jungleman Dan’s defence was, “I thought since many on the site were using pros to play for them (which was clear by the uniquely high level of play) at the time it felt acceptable for me to be playing.”
My defense for @DanBilzerian ‘s accusations https://t.co/EdD3yTsout
— Daniel Cates 🇺🇸 🌎 (@junglemandan) May 27, 2020
Jungleman’s guide to poker Integrity
It appears that some people never learn from their mistakes – off the table at least – and all this from the man who just a few months ago wanted to launch an app promoting integrity in the game of poker.
As likeable as Jungleman can be at times, his idea of allowing other players to anonymously rate skill levels among fellow pros didn’t go down too well…
I agree with this. Have to be careful though- you don’t want anon system where any one comment can be used to trash someone without proof etc.
And agree skill rating seems terrible. There is little benefit to rating people badly in this regard in a public setting— David Yan (@oraclevamoo) September 11, 2021
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